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In total lazy blogger mode, I'll just give you the link:

http://johncwright.livejournal.com/182201.html

and a bit of advice:

If the first section, the one on Iraq, bores you or rubs you the wrong way politically to the point where you're about to stop reading, skip on to point number 2 rather than just walking away. The thing gets more interesting as it goes along, and the discussion about Japan in the comments section should grab the attention of any peak oil aficionado or singularitarian who doesn't need to have something translated into the vernacular of their sub-culture to see how the points made relate to their interests.

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postrodent
Sep. 3rd, 2008 11:20 pm (UTC)
This Myers guy is the perfect man to give "intelligence briefings" to smug and provincial American CEOs. His "briefing" is maddeningly ahistorical, and plays into a bunch of smug bullshit about America's exceptionalism. I love that bit about America wanting Islam to move into the 21st century. Like we give two shits what they think or believe, as long as they'll let us have their oil and sell in their markets.
kmo
Sep. 4th, 2008 02:17 am (UTC)
This Myers guy is the perfect man to give "intelligence briefings" to smug and provincial American CEOs.

An "expert" is someone who articulates the needs of the powerful.

His "briefing" is maddeningly ahistorical...

He neglects the fact that a lot of Ancient Greek knowledge would have been lost during the dark ages in Europe and never recovered had it not been kept intact by Islamic science.

Speaking of Islam in the 21st Century, you may have seen this when it was current, but if not:

http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm
postrodent
Sep. 4th, 2008 02:36 am (UTC)
hadn't seen it. :p
He's a pretty good writer, that Simmons dude.

"you are too timid, too fearful . . . too decent . . . to match the ruthlessness of your enemies"

Jeez. Already we starve them, cluster-bomb them, and give their children birth defects. How much more blood does the Blood God need?

toucansanctuary
Sep. 4th, 2008 12:59 am (UTC)
KMO,

Interesting presentation. I've noted several areas that I highly disagree with. I'm sure you have found these areas as well.

1. Keeping in mind the facts that were brought to light by Michael Ruppert, the War on Iraq/Terrorism is a ruse to keep our military in a strategic area.

2. Trying to get extremists ousted and replaced with moderates is just another way of saying, "We want governments that will play with our economic rules. This should be more than apparent for anyone who has read "Web of Debt" by Ellen Brown.

3. The population reduction "crisis" and it's economic effects..... In a nutshell, he's saying that the panacea for the worlds problems is to keep breeding like rabbits. He promotes perpetual growth which has it's own limits. The world needs less people. Sustainably, the Earth can support little more than 2 billion people in a post petroleum era. Even if the population reduction figures he gives are accurate, the proper worldwide response is to encourage this voluntary population drop, not encourage a reversal of the trend back towards limitless growth.

4. It seems to me that the author is touting the benefits of fractured businesses. Please correct me if I'm wrong. The only thing that this has done is allowed businesses to increase profits but it has done so by socializing many of the costs that it used to incur. Furthermore, it builds the whole economic system up into a web of dependency which could come to a crashing halt should several key players stop operating for whatever reason. Dmitry Orlov would most likely say that this model is far from "Collapse Proof." While this author seems to, on the surface, make some striking points, his motivations are most likely stemming from Big Business/Government interests. He just wants to maintain the status quo, whatever the cost. Just my two cents. TS
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kmo
Sep. 4th, 2008 02:32 am (UTC)
The population reduction "crisis" and it's economic effects..... In a nutshell, he's saying that the panacea for the worlds problems is to keep breeding like rabbits. He promotes perpetual growth which has it's own limits.

Yes. If he didn't speak from the tacit assumption that growth is an eternal and unqualified good, he would not be speaking to a group of American CEOs.

Also, he admits that there are plenty of people in the world to do what needs doing, it's just that as time goes on, in rich countries with low birth rates, more of those people will be immigrants, and if we Americans and Europeans don't give up this post-religious, progressive gender equality non-sense, there's going to be a lot of foreigners in our midst, perhaps even dark foreigners whose food smells funny.

...it builds the whole economic system up into a web of dependency which could come to a crashing halt should several key players stop operating for whatever reason. Dmitry Orlov would most likely say that this model is far from "Collapse Proof."

The process he describes is one that the sort of economists who think that growth is always good and can continue ad infinitum would describe as increasing efficiency. Generally efficiency lies at the opposite end of a spectrum from resilience. Increasing efficiency typically involves eliminating redundancy, and redundancy and resilience tend to go hand in hand.
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