Episode 125: Apocalypse, Not!
- Oct. 22nd, 2008 at 9:18 PM
125: Apocalypse, Not!
KMO welcomes Toby Hemenway to the program to talk about the virtues of rural and urban living. Does living in the boonies do Gaia any favors, or are rural homesteads basically just suburban McMansions with bigger yards and longer commutes? Listener email, music from Andy Warren, and a preview of a talk given by Fred Alan Wolf at the Coalessence Festival.
Links tomorrow.
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The other episodes are there, but not yesterdays.
I should have written sooner... I've been listening to you for a few months now, and until now have not been incensed enough to comment. I think Mr. Hemenway has been living in a closet somewhere... or perhaps he just doesn't know anyone that has been affected by our current economic situation. If he really thinks that the government will prevent the food industry from collapsing... perhaps he needs to look at our medical establishment. While medical care is certainly available, there is a cost associated whith that care... and while food will always be there for the eating... I'm sure the many hungry people this evening would like to know how they are supposed to pay for it. Everything for a price, and if you can't pay... get to the back of the line, because the sytem has ALREADY COLLAPSED for you! Anyway KMO, you're doing a fine job... and I promise to send you a few bucks when I can... but this guy is a bit too privilaged to preach to me. The collapse isn't going to take a hundred years to happen.... it's here, smell the coffee??
Later, Dublindan
I am sure looking forward to listening to the Coalescence Festival Mp'3.
Thanks!
E
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I think it's too much to hope -- even given your very apparent communication skills -- that many of the ideas you talk about aren't going to occur to the majority of people as "too nuanced". They will. But this seems consistent with the unfolding of many, if not all, major social shifts. The "self-evident truths" at the core of America where very far from that for, perhaps, 95% of the rest of the global community in the 18th century, were they not?
Things change ... generally for the better.
:)