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C-Realm Podcast #121: Full Faith & Credit

"C" stands for consciousness

121: Full Faith & Credit

KMO welcomes Web of Debt author Ellen Brown (ellenbrown) back to the program to discuss the role that the derivatives trade has played in bringing about the current "crisis" in the financial markets and what the US government could do if they were really interested in addressing the problem to which they are seeking a SEVEN HUNDRED BILLION DOLLAR tax-payer-supplied remedy. In the second half of the program, KMO offers one listener the opportunity to present his synthesis of the seemingly disparate recurring themes covered on the C-Realm Podcast.

The second half of the Ellen Brown interview can be found here:


Jonathan, the Underground Psychedelic Researcher and Psychoactive Sacramentalist, has started his own LiveJournal account: potprophet

While potprophet didn't mention it specifically, many of the ideas he expressed on the program relate to the idea of directed Panspermia:


Jeremy Narby discusses the thinking behind directed panspermia in his book The Cosmic Serpent. Jeremy Narby appears in episodes 25 and 26 of the C-Realm Podcast.

The cover art image comes from David Holmgren's Future Scenarios website:



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Sep. 24th, 2008 08:39 pm (UTC)
Cool. I'll check it out.
You might want to download the second part of the Ellen Brown interview before you start you homeward commute:

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Sep. 25th, 2008 12:02 pm (UTC)
Re: Cool. I'll check it out.
Did you see that McCain is apparently suspending his campaign to deal with this crisis?

Yes. I posted my thoughts on that topic over on the discussion forum for the Kunstler Cast:


My comment is about halfway down the page, and "tacit" should read "tactic."
Sep. 25th, 2008 02:30 am (UTC)
Another episode not in the RSS feed...
Oh KMO, you know how anal I am about having my podcasts filed together! :-(
Sep. 25th, 2008 03:02 am (UTC)
Re: Another episode not in the RSS feed...
PS I should add that I haven't listened to the show yet and I'm sure you have good reasons for posting Part 2 separately.

Have a great day.
Sep. 25th, 2008 11:37 am (UTC)
you know how anal I am
I'm not sure I did know that.

Anyway, I have 5 GB of storage on PodOMatic, and I have used 4.6 GB of that. I've already had to move the first 17 episodes of the podcast over to the Internet Archive, and I'll be moving another batch soon.

Another episode not in the RSS feed...

Not an episode, a segment that would otherwise not have seen the light of day.
Sep. 26th, 2008 01:34 am (UTC)
Podcast filing
Yes I know, tis dumb. I think I have a touch of Asperger's.
Looking forward to listening to show and extra segment on my bus trip today.
Oct. 7th, 2008 09:57 am (UTC)
Debt Money
Good YouTube Video Explaining this concept.

Dec. 9th, 2008 03:27 pm (UTC)
Potprophet's LiveJournal No Longer Active

This is just to let you and any C-Realm Episode 121 researchers know that I am closing out the "potprophet" LiveJournal account. I now recognize that the C-Realm Radiant Sun shownotes would have been a suitable location for any additional comments I wanted to share with C-Realm listeners, or for a follow-up response to your thoughts about panspermia, the meaning of the technological singularity, or the great work of Jeremy Narby.

I think, upon comparing myself with most of your other interviewees, I formed the misimpression that a unique blog would help establish the credibility of my message. Not only was this a misimpression, but there are also significant social, economic, and ecological problems with this approach.

At the social level, this approach creates parallel conversations and parallel communities.

Economically, this approach undermines the development of a cooperative economy. Had I confined myself to additional comments on the C-Realm Radiant Sun, I would not have spent $20 USD to open my own LiveJournal account. That money could have been reallocated to help cover the costs of continued C-Realm production.

Needless to say, this approach is also bad for the environment. Had I not started my own LiveJournal account I would have reduced my demand on the grid, thereby decreasing my carbon footprint.

So rather than put any effort into developing a spin-off conversation and a spin-off community (which was never a particular interest of mine), I'm going to close out my LiveJournal account and return to my original inspiration, which was and is to participate directly in the conversation between you and the C-Realm audience.

You'll next see me again as a commenter under Episode 131.

Dec. 9th, 2008 03:51 pm (UTC)
Re: Potprophet's LiveJournal No Longer Active
Hi Jonathan,

Does LiveJournal no longer offer free accounts?

It's tough to keep an online community going. As far as I can tell, about a thousand people download each new episode of the podcast within the first week of my posting it, and only a tiny minority ever post a comment here or over on the C-Realm forum at the Grow Report.

I've read that most blogs are not even created by humans. They're bot-constructed mash-ups designed to catch the eye of the search engines and get people to click on pages embeded with paid ads. Less than half of all blogs have any intention behind them other than to game the system and make money, and most human-created blogs have very few readers and far fewer contributors. I don't think you have to worry about the carbon footprint of your sincere effort to host an on-line conversation.

Stay well.

Dec. 9th, 2008 06:37 pm (UTC)
Re: Potprophet's LiveJournal No Longer Active
To my knowledge LiveJournal does still offer free accounts, though these accounts have fewer features. I don't, however, begrudge the cost of the service and the cost itself is not an obstacle to my continuation of the potprophet account.

The problem is that the idea behind the account was flawed from the beginning. Not flawed because there is something inherently wrong about opening a LiveJournal account, but because in my particular situation the decision to open an account was not an intelligent solution to the design problem at hand. On the contrary, it was socially, economically, and ecologically counterproductive.

The "design problem" in a general sense is the transition to a sustainable post-carbon economy. The Web has a central role to play in this new economy, but I expect the American people will have to be much more economical in their approach to its use. A single small website is not a big deal, but fifty million such websites have considerable aggregate impact. As energy costs increase due to natural resource constraints on the supply side and (hopefully) carbon consumption constraints on the demand side, server space and related Web infrastructure will become much more expensive. We need to be thinking now about what Web resources are most important and how to keep them going.

One strategy is to de-emphasize personal blogging and emphasize participation in community forums. This will not and should not be the solution for everyone, but for great numbers of Americans currently blogging I suspect this might be a more responsible choice.

In my case and at this point in time, I think it is most sensible for me to contribute every now and again to the ongoing conversation at the C-Realm and other valued forums and keep it at that. Indeed, your observation about the C-Realm that "it's tough to keep an online community going" given the small number of comments is all the more encouragement for me to proceed in this direction!
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