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Episode 125: Apocalypse, Not!

"C" stands for consciousness

125: Apocalypse, Not!

KMO welcomes Toby Hemenway to the program to talk about the virtues of rural and urban living. Does living in the boonies do Gaia any favors, or are rural homesteads basically just suburban McMansions with bigger yards and longer commutes? Listener email, music from Andy Warren, and a preview of a talk given by Fred Alan Wolf at the Coalessence Festival.

Links tomorrow.


( 14 comments — Leave a comment )
Oct. 23rd, 2008 01:41 am (UTC)
Thanks KMO. You do such a lot really.
Oct. 23rd, 2008 06:37 am (UTC)
Podomatic Issues
KMO, I'm not sure if you've realized yet, but I can not find your podomatic account and iTunes shows that your show is no longer a valid podcast account. What is going on?
Oct. 23rd, 2008 09:22 am (UTC)
Re: Podomatic Issues
Yep, me too. Bit of a worry...
Oct. 23rd, 2008 03:06 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I am not seeing this one on podomatic, and the c-realm link just goes to the main page.Have to do a search to find the C-Realm.
The other episodes are there, but not yesterdays.
Oct. 23rd, 2008 11:08 pm (UTC)
Toby's outta touch
Het KMO,
I should have written sooner... I've been listening to you for a few months now, and until now have not been incensed enough to comment. I think Mr. Hemenway has been living in a closet somewhere... or perhaps he just doesn't know anyone that has been affected by our current economic situation. If he really thinks that the government will prevent the food industry from collapsing... perhaps he needs to look at our medical establishment. While medical care is certainly available, there is a cost associated whith that care... and while food will always be there for the eating... I'm sure the many hungry people this evening would like to know how they are supposed to pay for it. Everything for a price, and if you can't pay... get to the back of the line, because the sytem has ALREADY COLLAPSED for you! Anyway KMO, you're doing a fine job... and I promise to send you a few bucks when I can... but this guy is a bit too privilaged to preach to me. The collapse isn't going to take a hundred years to happen.... it's here, smell the coffee??
Later, Dublindan
Oct. 24th, 2008 04:36 am (UTC)
Re: Toby's outta touch
You might want to work on those listening skills. I said we're in a fast collapse--or is a global depression not grim enough for you? I was careful not to say that the gov't would keep the food system running, only that it would make it a priority, and that the financial system is far less robust. And I described the patchy distribution of resources. I know that it would be much simpler if people could be neatly divided into "what me worry?" and "the end is here!" but there's actually a lot of room between those two poles. For some, Orlov's stage 5 is here, while others will keep on going to the mall as always. Please, please tell me that is not too nuanced a view for some people to grasp!
Oct. 28th, 2008 06:36 am (UTC)
Coalessence Festival
Hey KMO,

I am sure looking forward to listening to the Coalescence Festival Mp'3.

Oct. 29th, 2008 12:11 am (UTC)
Re: Coalessence Festival
Thank you for the reminder. I'll get it up by week's end.
Oct. 29th, 2008 12:33 am (UTC)
Re: Coalessence Festival
I still plan to add it to the internet archive, but it occurs to me that you should be able to download it here:

Nov. 2nd, 2008 05:41 am (UTC)
Re: Coalessence Festival
thanks KMO!
Oct. 28th, 2008 07:54 pm (UTC)
Toby -
I think it's too much to hope -- even given your very apparent communication skills -- that many of the ideas you talk about aren't going to occur to the majority of people as "too nuanced". They will. But this seems consistent with the unfolding of many, if not all, major social shifts. The "self-evident truths" at the core of America where very far from that for, perhaps, 95% of the rest of the global community in the 18th century, were they not?
Things change ... generally for the better.
Oct. 30th, 2008 01:32 am (UTC)
Do you have a link to that Andy Warren piece?
Oct. 30th, 2008 02:49 am (UTC)
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